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Bojicat: Interesting to see if this will boost the Conservatives coming out to the polls.
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| D:1 | RP ( 5639.51 points) | October 10, 2019 05:38pm |
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| I:6738 | IndyGeorgia ( 4881.18 points) | October 21, 2019 10:45pm |
I don’t think Conservatives can afford to keep Scheer around. He may end up with more seats than in 2015, but not beating a very vulnerable Trudeau may be the end of his leadership.
Also, deputy Conservative leader Lisa Raitt has lost her seat. Who would they turn to? Energy is out West for Conservatives, but the majority is found East.
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| I:9775 | Natalie ( 108.00 points) | October 21, 2019 11:08pm |
I realize this seems to be a pretty popular conclusion already, but Blanchet and May are the big winners of tonight. All parties can walk away happy with their result though (Conservatives stopped Trudeau from winning a majority, NDP gets to play kingmaker, and the Liberals are 10-20 seats away from a majority). Trudeau should be very worried about a challenge to his leadership.
I can rest happy tonight knowing the far-right (People's Party) was defeated.
Vive le Québec libre!
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| I:9626 | Bojicat ( 822.51 points) | October 22, 2019 09:11am |
The revival of 'Quebec libre' sentiment, Nat, is not something Canada can be happy about. The BQ's out-from-nowhere rise is VERY bad news. Add to that the equivalent hardening of dissociation positions in the West, as the results are showing, and one can see that Canada's being scattered into divisions not seen since, well, Trudeau senior's incumbency.
We are looking at this all through rose-tinted glasses.
Trudeau lost his majority. The only 'victory' he could hang his hat on is that he didn't lose by as much as projected. His minority status means that he will need the help of the (now vastly weakened) NDP to govern, and move further to the left. Doing this shuts out the Western provinces entirely. Going forward, this isn't good tidings for Canada at all.
The epiphenomenon of the night, beside the ghost of de Gaulle rising from the dead in Quebec, is how badly the NDP did, in spite of a lot of fuss over its bright new leadership. A collapse from 39 to 24 ridings, a 38% drop. This was not expected.
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| D:1 | RP ( 5639.51 points) | October 22, 2019 09:24am |
The current Bloc doesn't seem that interested in independence anymore.
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RP: The current Bloc doesn't seem that interested in independence anymore.
So-So. They've softened a bit but still want a sovereign Quebec.
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Not the result I wanted the NDP to get, but I'd be lying if I didn't expect them to not do so hot
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| D:1 | RP ( 5639.51 points) | October 22, 2019 10:03am |
I expected them to lose a few seats, but not do this bad.
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| D:1 | RP ( 5639.51 points) | October 22, 2019 10:04am |
E Pluribus Unum: So-So. They've softened a bit but still want a sovereign Quebec.
Seems more rhetorical at this point. Certainly advocating for parochial interests though.
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| D:2109 | Ashley ( 5529.66 points) | October 22, 2019 10:39am |
Bojicat: The epiphenomenon of the night, beside the ghost of de Gaulle rising from the dead in Quebec, is how badly the NDP did, in spite of a lot of fuss over its bright new leadership. A collapse from 39 to 24 ridings, a 38% drop. This was not expected.
The impression I got outside Quebec is that the NDP’s bad showing had as much to do with first-past-the-post voters being so worried about Scheer becoming PM and not having faith in a coalition taking shape to stop that from happening that they ended up voting Liberal as it did anything else.
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| D:1 | RP ( 5639.51 points) | October 22, 2019 11:06am |
Plausible.
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RP: I expected them to lose a few seats, but not do this bad.
Best case scenario: Jagmeet is PM or at the very lest they repeat Layton 2011
Worst Case scenario: Retain 3rd.
I like Jagmeet and hope this is just a fluke like the early Layton tenure, but a lot of moves he did weren't that good...
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9685.29 points) | October 22, 2019 04:18pm |
Well since the election is over I’ll say it. Between a wet noodle and Andrew Scheer, a wet noodle is more appealing. I’ll be surprised if he stays around much longer.
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| I Lab:9830 | Shady Morsi ( -141.04 points) | October 24, 2019 07:38pm |
How about Liberal-BQ coalition
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