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| I:1038 | WA Indy ( 1821.84 points) | October 13, 2023 06:14pm |
BrentinCO: There is not a governable GOP majority. I suspect we will have a Speaker, but more in a caretaker role. Someone that is Republican with support of enough Democrats.
I hope so, but I don't see the handful of GOP members doing that anytime soon. Maybe by next spring...
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WA Indy: I hope so, but I don't see the handful of GOP members doing that anytime soon. Maybe by next spring...
When the GOP gives up on trying to elect a Speaker themselves, I think Biden district Republicans will work with Democrats. The alternative would be shutting down the government for over a year.
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| LPP:10973 | Patrick ( 1.74 points) | October 13, 2023 07:00pm |
I want Jordan to win because that's the surest path for him to finally be excommunicated from the qult and thus public relevance
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| D:1989 | RBH ( 5694.97 points) | October 15, 2023 04:04pm |
the fact that none of these Republican conference votes have 217 votes total should tell you how little room they have to spare
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9685.29 points) | October 16, 2023 06:25pm |
BrentinCO:
Prediction. Jordan will NOT be Speaker.
I'm taking this back. Jordan seems to have satisfied most of his opposition or at least enough. McCaul, Wagner, and Rogers all will vote for him now. Republicans seem to at least understand they need to come back together given what the world and our country are facing.
Bacon and Gimenez are probably the hold outs and the only votes against him.
There will be a floor vote tomorrow and he will be elected narrowly if not on the first vote on a vote there after.
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9685.29 points) | October 16, 2023 09:07pm |
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9685.29 points) | October 17, 2023 09:24am |
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| I:1038 | WA Indy ( 1821.84 points) | October 17, 2023 11:22am |
But America wants him!
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| D:1 | RP ( 5639.51 points) | October 17, 2023 11:45am |
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9685.29 points) | October 17, 2023 12:47pm |
Well the clown show continues.
LOL @ Buck and Spartz.
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| D:1 | RP ( 5639.51 points) | October 17, 2023 01:42pm |
Jeffries - 212
Jordan - 200
Scalise - 7
McCarthy - 6
Zeldin - 3
Emmer - 1
Garcia - 1
Cole - 1
Massie - 1
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I love this song
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| LIB:6149 | Campari_007 ( 1939.65 points) | October 18, 2023 11:23am |
LOL and he lost a vote already.
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| D:1 | RP ( 5639.51 points) | October 18, 2023 11:38am |
Can we just skip to electing a GOP moderate with Dem support in exchange for the original spending targets agreed to by McCarthy, a vote on support for Ukraine and Israel and no motion to vacate based on a single member?
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| LIB:6149 | Campari_007 ( 1939.65 points) | October 18, 2023 11:43am |
I think it should be a rule that after a certain amount of votes the person with the most votes wins no matter if it's not over 50%
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| WmP:879 | Chronicler ( 84.45 points) | October 18, 2023 12:02pm |
CNN says Jordan only received 199 on the second ballot.
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9685.29 points) | October 18, 2023 12:07pm |
They adjusted the vote total to correct for the person who voted for Hakeem Jordan.
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| I:1038 | WA Indy ( 1821.84 points) | October 18, 2023 12:23pm |
RP: Can we just skip to electing a GOP moderate
Lol, a what? Does anyone not Freedom Caucus count as a GOP moderate now?
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9685.29 points) | October 18, 2023 12:28pm |
Official tally from round 2
__Second Ballot results__
Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY): 212
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH): 199
Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA): 7
Rep. McCarthy (R-CA): 5
fmr. Rep. Zeldin (R-NY): 3
fmr. Speaker Boehner (R-OH): 1
Rep. Donalds (R-FL): 1
Rep. Emmer (R-MN): 1
Rep. Garcia (R-CA): 1
Rep. Granger (R-TX): 1
fmr. Rep. Miller (R-MI): 1
Rep. Westerman (R-AR): 1
**No candidate wins a majority, election will proceed to third ballot**
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| D:1 | RP ( 5639.51 points) | October 18, 2023 12:57pm |
WA Indy: Lol, a what? Does anyone not Freedom Caucus count as a GOP moderate now?
Pretty much. It's a relative thing to the rest of the caucus.
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| D:1 | RP ( 5639.51 points) | October 18, 2023 02:39pm |
Speaker candidate Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) told moderate New York holdouts he would support doubling the state-and-local tax deduction cap to $20,000, according to California Republican Mike Garcia. - [Link] |
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9685.29 points) | October 18, 2023 04:41pm |
FWIW From a CNN Reporter
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| D:1 | RP ( 5639.51 points) | October 18, 2023 07:43pm |
Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks (R-IA), who voted for Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) for speaker yesterday, then against him today, said in a statement that she has received “credible death threats.” - [Link] |
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Is it too late to resurrect Henry Clay and make him Speaker again?
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No matter who the GOP puts up, it will never end in unity. Jordan might as well step aside now.
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