If we only nominate progressive Democrats, then we will never be a majority party ever again. We must be a big tent party to survive. All parties must do so. We see Republicans dying out in places like Orange County because they are refusing to moderate and nominate candidates that can appeal beyond the party base.

Democrats lost 4 Senate seats using that strategy, a Conservative Democrat and a Republican are the same. If NC District 11 wants a Gun Loving Abortion hating conservative, why pick Shuler when you have the Republican.

Democrats lost 4 Senate seats using that strategy, a Conservative Democrat and a Republican are the same. If NC District 11 wants a Gun Loving Abortion hating conservative, why pick Shuler when you have the Republican. What? So Bernie would have won Indiana? I'm not sure what your point is. That permanent minority status is okay so long as the party you don't even belong to is pure?

What? So Bernie would have won Indiana? I'm not sure what your point is. That permanent minority status is okay so long as the party you don't even belong to is pure? Maybe, IDK. But you just make the claim, "oh Democrats can never win a majority if they are progressive..." That's not exactly true, run a populist campaign, you win. It's not exclusively "Oh you have to be a Corporatist Conservative to win in a Red District"

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E, I don’t believe you have to be a “Corporatist Conservative” (whatever the fuck that even is) to win. I do believe you have to meet people where they are and that means western North Carolina probably isn’t gonna be voting for what you consider a “progressive” even if they do run what you consider to be populist campaigns.

E, I don’t believe you have to be a “Corporatist Conservative” (whatever the fuck that even is) to win. I do believe you have to meet people where they are and that means western North Carolina probably isn’t gonna be voting for what you consider a “progressive” even if they do run what you consider to be populist campaigns. There's no winning 🤷‍♂️

E, I don’t believe you have to be a “Corporatist Conservative” (whatever the fuck that even is) to win. I do believe you have to meet people where they are and that means western North Carolina probably isn’t gonna be voting for what you consider a “progressive” even if they do run what you consider to be populist campaigns. Au contraire. People Like Huey Long and Estes Kefauver did really well in the South. Campaigns like Richard Ojeda would work better in these areas, campaign on popular positions and reject corporate donations, you'll do well.

Hold up, Huey Long, Kefauver, and Ojeda are examples of your arguments. Two Dems who could win way back when the South was a Democratic stronghold and a guy who voted for Trump then lost despite running the type of campaign you apparently like? I have nothing against Ojeda, I do think he happened to be the best candidate in that district at that time, but really?

Ojeda was outpolling Carol Miller until Trump came and Campaigned on her behalf. There are other factors and particulars from area to area. But blanketly populism wins, and the Republicans despite being beholden to corporations, are able to paint themselves as populists. In the 90's the Democrats adopted the Third Way model where they'd campaign as Moderate New Democrats. Outside of Bill Clinton, it hasn't done so good. They emulated Republicans by being corporate friendly, but all but Bill forgot to emulate the populist part.

Ojeda did worse than the candidate in WV-02. And to win these districts, you need someone who is a good cultural fit. Heath Shuler is a good cultural fit in NC-11. Now, E, if you would rather have someone who agrees with you 0% of the time instead of 50%, then more (less) power to you.

Ojeda did worse than the candidate in WV-02. And to win these districts, you need someone who is a good cultural fit. Heath Shuler is a good cultural fit in NC-11. Now, E, if you would rather have someone who agrees with you 0% of the time instead of 50%, then more (less) power to you. Bad choice of words, cause I agree with Meadows and Shuler 0% of the time. Let's play a game, guess who I'm describing here (Shuler or Meadows): Anti-Abortion, Anti-Gay, Anti-Obamacare, and Pro-Gun.

last time Heath Shuler inspired so much passionate discussion, it involved a QB controversy between him and Gus Frerotte.

Ojeda did worse than the candidate in WV-02. And to win these districts, you need someone who is a good cultural fit. Heath Shuler is a good cultural fit in NC-11. Now, E, if you would rather have someone who agrees with you 0% of the time instead of 50%, then more (less) power to you. Bad choice of words, cause I agree with Meadows and Shuler 0% of the time. Let's play a game, guess who I'm describing here (Shuler or Meadows): Anti-Abortion, Anti-Gay, Anti-Obamacare, and Pro-Gun. Ah, I remember saying almost exactly that when I rooted for Christine O'Donnell to beat Mike Castle. Senator Chris Coons is grateful.

More like bad choice of logic. Honestly, as someone who disagrees with E on most issues, I hope he maintains this logic, because it will keep socialist Democrats in a powerless position for generations to come.

E Pluribus Unum is no Socialist, I think he is simply either a Social Democrat or Democratic Socialist. Both of which are pretty cringe

E Pluribus Unum is no Socialist, I think he is simply either a Social Democrat or Democratic Socialist. Both of which are pretty cringe Never claimed I was a socialist, but if you suggest anything slightly left-of-center you are considered Marx

Lol, I’m left of center, but feel free to believe your own Twitter bs.

Lol, I’m left of center, but feel free to believe your own Twitter bs. Maybe based on American standards, but not in the rest of the developed world