It will be interesting to see if she follows the Gillibrand model or the Sinema model.

Is our country literally run by the dumbest people on the planet? Kamala literally ran the least Identity Politics related campaign in the world, lost. And the solution is "LESS OF IDPOL". So what just be reactionary? The only one running an Idpol campaign was Trump; he was the one campaigning about Trans People nonstop, how immigrants were "poisoning the blood of our country". Like fr if you live in a reality where KAMALA HARRIS is this extreme left radical idpol candidate, you live on fucking Pluto....

Harris didn't run on identity politics during her approximately 100 day Presidential campaign, sure. But she clearly didn't shake off the image of being the "woke crusader" she had established herself as in the 2020 primary. No one was making up her statement on being in favor of taxpayer-funded sex changes for illegal aliens in prison. That was just a genuinely out-of-touch statement of hers from 2019.

Is our country literally run by the dumbest people on the planet? Maybe she isn't talking about Harris? Maybe she is referring to the broader public perception of the Democratic Party being overly focused on niche identity politics and not broader issues. Alot of analysis showed late decider voters breaking for the GOP over these very issues, especially in battleground states like Michigan. Also, sorry it must be tough for you to be so smart and the rest of the world that doesn't agree with your politics so dumb. I now realize why you have such a tough life.

Harris didn't run on identity politics during her approximately 100 day Presidential campaign, sure. But she clearly didn't shake off the image of being the "woke crusader" she had established herself as in the 2020 primary. No one was making up her statement on being in favor of taxpayer-funded sex changes for illegal aliens in prison. That was just a genuinely out-of-touch statement of hers from 2019. That's not even true, this notion Kamala is a "WOKE CRUSADER" are lies being fed to u by the media. Think about what you said just said there for a second, ur saying that Kamala Harris should have campaigned against Medical Treatment for Prisoners. Like again, you live in a reality where KAMALA HARRIS is this extreme left radical idpol candidate, you live on fucking Pluto. This was true in 2020 and this is true now. Maybe she isn't talking about Harris? Maybe she is referring to the broader public perception of the Democratic Party being overly focused on niche identity politics and not broader issues. Alot of analysis showed late decider voters breaking for the GOP over these very issues, especially in battleground states like Michigan. So again: our country literally run by the dumbest people on the planet. Because people PERCEPTIONS can be, wrong... Harris didn't campaign on "WOKE", Dem Senate Candidates didn't campaign on "WOKE". The only people who DID campaign on Woke, were Trump and the GOP. Also, sorry it must be tough for you to be so smart and the rest of the world that doesn't agree with your politics so dumb. I now realize why you have such a tough life. You say that jokingly, but ur spitting facts ngl. I've literally given you TONS of data points to prove you wrong that will give u a better understanding of any of the subjects ur talking about, and yet rather than learn from them you just decide to not take them into consideration at all because they do not rely on ur preconceived notions that Trans People are icky. And I expect you to do the same thing u do before and suspiciously leave this part out when u end up replying; so u can still walk way with ur preconceive notions

Maybe some day EPUB you'll wake up and realize that democracy is the market place of ideas and that you need to win people over to your side. Perception and reality have always been on a sliding scale with no absolutes or guarantees. This is as true now as it was back when Democracy was born. Political "data points" and "facts" are always subjective and can be twisted and yes you do a good job of cherry picking what works for you. But don't be so naive to suggest that you are the only with the "right" facts. This is where you are very wrong and your arrogance comes through. Also, having contempt and disdain for people you need to win over in the marketplace of ideas isn't a successful strategy and that proved true in this election in my opinion. Some people just don't like being called dumb by the people that want their vote.

You can't claim the fault of someone else for your own inability to learn. If all the major scientific and data experts can't convince you of something, you are saying a lot more about yourself than you are about me. There is literally nothing I can say that can convince you of something that you just flat out refuse to believe. You are so deep in your preconceived notions you interpret contradicting evidence as a personal attack. I tried being civil at first, but since you've fallen deeper in the hole, there's no reason to treat you with baby gloves. And if your inability to do so comes from people calling you mean names online, grow the fuck up. It's very obvious you just hate Trans People, you can pretend its anything else, but when ALL of the data is against you and you remain firm in your believes, then it's clear that nothing can convince you because you have made up your mind that people living their lives as they see fit is WRONG and must be stopped. You would much rather live in a cave rather than crawl out to see the sun.

I don't hate anyone. You are very wrong about that and clearly don't know me. And the fact that you need to create monsters out of people you disagree with politically speaks volumes about your approach to the world. Don't make it so personal.

I have religious beliefs - which affirm that there are two genders and there is no transitioning between genders. This is a view that a lot people have - including anyone who is a strict adherent of any Abrahamic religion, including Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. And a lot of other people who aren't religious also have these views. I also believe that everyone needs to be treated with LOVE and respect. LOVE God and LOVE Thy Neighbor - the great commandment. I realize that we need to coexist together in world of different beliefs. And people who are trans and people who religious need to live together. That means compromise and it means respecting EVERYONE - not just people I agree with politically.

See, right there. That's you showing that you cannot be changed on this. Despite the fact that both statements are verifiably untrue. You believe them regardless. Rather than accept the contradictory information. Gender is the social, psychological, cultural and behavioral aspects of people based on their identification. Traditionally man and woman, but other identifications can be used based on the characteristics stated previously; Genderfluid, Nonbinary, Two-Spirit, etc. Right off the bat that's 3 more than 2. If you mean to use gender as a censorship of the word sex that is also not true, around 136,000,000 people in the world are Intersex; meaning they have sexual traits that cannot be defined in the 2 options given. With a wide range of ways these traits can come out sexually. Also, people have transitioned between genders/sexes, I've seen them. I've seen more trans people than of God. And rather than going "hold on, my beliefs were wrong, maybe I should rethink them", you chug along as if nothing else happened Again you make the claim "respecting EVERYONE" bull, but it contradicts EVERYTHING you have been saying thus far. You cannot respect someone who's whole lifestyle you think is a sin against the divine creator. You've not claimed any of the thing I said you wan to do as Incorrect or unfactual, so I am left thinkin that u DO agree with those things that would objectively hurt Trans People and therefore NOT respect them

I'll leave it here. My last post on this thread. You are right, I won't change on this because my beliefs have been tested through time and are doctrine I subscribe to. It has been extremely helpful to me to live by this word/doctrine and my life has changed for the better by living by it. I have grown tremendously by studying it and I believe the word is GOD is unlike anything ever given to us. Its beautiful, its multi-dimensional, and increcibly threaded with answers. I am extremely happy in my world as are others who have the same belief. I believe in LOVING EVERYONE. But you seem to be under the impression that the only definition LOVING EVERYONE is accepting what YOU believe. Thats simply not true. The world is so much bigger than you. I do believe there is a happy space for all of us and place where we can coexist in the marketplace of all our ideas. It just requires creative thinking and respecting each other. That means you need to move and I need move. And we need to find solutions that work for ALL OF US. But when you call everyone idiots and brainless because they don't believe what YOU believe - it such a non-starter for most people. And we are going to end up with a solution from whoever gets the most votes in a political cycle. And don't think that helps either us.

No one was making up her statement on being in favor of taxpayer-funded sex changes for illegal aliens in prison. That was just a genuinely out-of-touch statement of hers from 2019. This policy, of course, was initiated by Trump during his first term. I saw online that only two people have taken advantage of it since it began about 6 years ago. Trump favored the policy. His campaign just lied about it like they do about everything else.

Slotkin has been trashing the Democratic campaign all year, and I mean I guess she will say she was vindicated but she also got fewer votes than Kamala. Hopefully she helps put this new "strategy" into action but more likely she just becomes a generic, Chris Murphy, backbencher type who tries to join all the "gang of 14" meetings while compromising on a bunch of deals where nobody gets anything they want except for megadonors.

Man you love to literally say a lot of nonsense don't you....... You are right, I won't change on this because my beliefs have been tested through time and are doctrine I subscribe to. Well MINUS the part where I literally just said your belief saying "there are two genders and there is no transitioning between genders" is objectively wrong. You can choose to not call the sky blue, it's still blue. I believe in LOVING EVERYONE. But you seem to be under the impression that the only definition LOVING EVERYONE is accepting what YOU believe. Thats simply not true. The world is so much bigger than you. You love people so much u want them to be put in situations that actively harm them. This is why this is so weird to me: YOUR BELEIFS LITERALLY HURT PEOPLE, MINE DON'T! You have shown me NOTHING that dictates that my beliefs lead to any harm. Your solutions literally lead to discrimination and in the worst cases DEATH. Either via hate crimes or in pushing them to commit suicide. I do believe there is a happy space for all of us and place where we can coexist in the marketplace of all our ideas. It just requires creative thinking and respecting each other. Tolerating intolerance is an oxymoron. You are asking me to tolerate people who do not see trans people as humans. Would you ask the Jews to tolerate Hitler? None of what u have said here makes me think you care about Trans people in the slightest, especially when u put a laugh emoji to the solution that is literally the bare minimum for Trans Tolerance, not even acceptance, but tolerance... That means you need to move and I need move. And we need to find solutions that work for ALL OF US. But when you call everyone idiots and brainless because they don't believe what YOU believe - it such a non-starter for most people. And we are going to end up with a solution from whoever gets the most votes in a political cycle. And don't think that helps either us. The solution that works for ALL OF US has been EXPLICITLY TOLD TO YOU. How are YOU getting hurt by a Trans Teen pissing into the bathroom they identify with? None of the data shows it, morally I see no problem with it. In the most honest sense, outside of being a Transphobe, I do not see where the issue is. You are just being a triggered snowflake who cannot accept other info that contradicts your existing beliefs, leading me to suspect that the entire "the only definition LOVING EVERYONE is accepting what YOU believe." thing u said is complete projection. I mean ur the one claiming this belief was instilled into u through religion, and i doubt u JUST became religious so these were clearly forced upon you by your parents. None of mine are

I think Andy Beshear had a really good response to this topic. I think Democrats are always forced to be on the defensive about focusing on "identity politics" when meanwhile, someone like Sarah McBride runs a campaign where LGBT issues are not at the forefront and yet you have people like Nancy Mace throwing a fit because she's simply existing. There's this idea that focusing on social issues is somehow "elitist" or "out of touch," when these issues affect everyday people in every community (yes, there are people in rural, Trump-voting counties that are LGBT or care about abortion rights). https://x.com/FaceTheNation/status/1858204162594329082

The right claims to hate "Identity Politics", yet in reality they love it because when they can't fabricate a culture war they can't ever win. Think, What did Trump Campaign on? Idpol on immigration, Idpol on Trans People, Idpol on Israel/Palestine. What did Kamala Run on? Child Tax Credit, Affordable Housing, Middle Class Tax Cut. And despite the fact a CERTAIN SOMEONE, would probably benefit from that; they'd much rather vote on making more Trans Kids commit suicide.

It is ok to say that Dems need to change how they message their positions but saying that they need to make their positions more like whatever this Republican party considers "a position" is truly insane

She will be giving the rebuttal to Trump's speech to joint session of Congress for the Democratic Party.