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| D:10169 | 123NY ( 5.95 points) | January 11, 2019 11:10am |
Spanberger and Hurd have got me thinking; should the site add a "CIA" tag?
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9685.29 points) | January 11, 2019 08:09pm |
Slotkin in Michigan too.
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| D:1 | RP ( 5639.51 points) | January 12, 2019 09:07am |
I've been iffy about tags for quite a while due to their possible vagueness, but that might be a good one. Would putting it under "Military Service" be too wrong?
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| D:10169 | 123NY ( 5.95 points) | January 13, 2019 03:14pm |
I think it could be added to "Organizations." Or perhaps,"Military Service," could be changed to "Military/Intelligence Agency Service" or something along those lines.
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| I:6738 | IndyGeorgia ( 4881.18 points) | November 05, 2020 02:12pm |
A take from one of the more centrist Democrats:
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| I:1038 | WA Indy ( 1821.84 points) | November 05, 2020 04:20pm |
I’m sure the supposedly ascendant left would rather lose the House so long as they won primaries in Massachusetts and Manhattan.
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A wrong take
Socialism did not lose those seats because Socialists were not IN those seats. If Socialism cost the seats, wouldn't the Socialists be gone and not the most Conservative Democrats in the House who ran on a strategy of being Republican-lite which literally cost the Democrats 4 Senate Seats in 2018.
The fact that is not being acknowledged AGAIN is what is gonna kill the Dem Party
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E Pluribus Unum: A wrong take
Socialism did not lose those seats because Socialists were not IN those seats. If Socialism cost the seats, wouldn't the Socialists be gone and not the most Conservative Democrats in the House who ran on a strategy of being Republican-lite which literally cost the Democrats 4 Senate Seats in 2018.
The fact that is not being acknowledged AGAIN is what is gonna kill the Dem Party
I can't tell if you're joking
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| I:1038 | WA Indy ( 1821.84 points) | November 05, 2020 05:42pm |
I think the takeaway is more Marquita Bradshaws...
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Southern_Moderate2: I can't tell if you're joking
Why would I be joking, I am 100% right. Lost 4 Senate Seats last election and losing a hell of a lot of House seats running on that strategy.
I mean since ur an R u'd benefit from Dems dying anyways, so that explains u 😂
WA Indy: I think the takeaway is more Marquita Bradshaws...
And a Conservative Dem would have won there then. Ok What about Phil Bredensen last time?
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| D:6086 | Jason ( 13474.04 points) | November 05, 2020 06:08pm |
There are certain parts of the country where a populist message with a left-wing emphasis on government spending and economic opportunity can fly, even in places that voted for Trump. Semantics matter to people though, so you can't necessarily be a self-described socialist and expect to win. This is why people like Sherrod Brown and Gary Peters are in office.
"Defund the police" is even more problematic, since at that point candidates would either have to (a) defend the unpopular position of not having a police force, or (b) engage in semantic arguments over "defund the police" really not meaning defund the police but rather some nuanced reimagining of police resources. When anti-abortion advocates talked about "defunding" Planned Parenthood, they weren't making some pragmatic argument; they were being pretty clear about what they meant. It would behoove criminal justice reformists to understand the words they're using if they don't really mean what they say.
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^^^^^^
THIS.
I'm not sayin run on "Seize the means of production and end the bourgeoisie rule to save the Prolitariet", but running on ideas with 70% Approval is not gonna "kill our chances in 2022"
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| I:1038 | WA Indy ( 1821.84 points) | November 05, 2020 06:50pm |
The places those arguments seem to work haven’t exactly propelled candidates through primaries outside of Massachusetts and urban areas, so where?
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Not exactly. As he mentions some more Moderate-Left Populist folks like Sherrod Brown, Dennis Kucinich, and folks like even John Yarmuth can do well if you let them. Its an effort of getting the message out and getting that message to appeal to people. Even a lot of the Moderate Dems that won in 2018 understood that (and a couple of the ones who backed away have lost now). Go past the smears. Another thing is the Dem Party needs to stop shunning the Left Wing that is not incumbents.
It's not gonna work all the time and there are a lot more factors in play, but running on something will work better than running on nothing
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| LIB:6149 | Campari_007 ( 1939.65 points) | November 06, 2020 09:58am |
I think Progressive policies can win but the message has to be sharper and clearer. As Rep. Marc Veasey said "if you're explaining, you're losing."
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You just gotta work past the 90's politics mentality of "gotta go 2 the center"
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The GOP wants to make progressive policies look scary. We need to counteract that.
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They are kinda bad at it sometimes tho.
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E Pluribus Unum: They are kinda bad at it sometimes tho.
Who is "they" in this?
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| R:7114 | Kyle ( 706.96 points) | November 06, 2020 04:54pm |
E Pluribus Unum: You just gotta work past the 90's politics mentality of "gotta go 2 the center"
The vast number of Bacon/Biden voters in NE-02 would disagree.
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Aren't spies supposed to be smart?
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My Congressman is a Weiner: Who is "they" in this?
Conservatives makin left seem Scary
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| D:2109 | Ashley ( 5529.66 points) | November 08, 2020 01:22am |
I think the real thing we need to be having an angry, impassioned conference call over is how she got so many Hot Mama of the Year votes twice from the same people who gave me **** for calling Tzipi Hotovely hot.
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Ashley: I think the real thing we need to be having an angry, impassioned conference call over is how she got so many Hot Mama of the Year votes twice from the same people who gave me **** for calling Tzipi Hotovely hot.
Gentlemen prefer blondes
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