If you were a Brown campaign strategist, isn't the more potent line of attack against Turner that she won't be able to deliver due to always butting heads? I mean, a mailer to older Democratic voters saying "Nina Turner said your vote for Joe Biden & Kamala Harris is like eating a bowl of sh*t"? Not a strategist, but I feel like that would be the "establishment" argument. It could work or totally flop (are people really concerned about how well you work with leadership?).

If you were a Brown campaign strategist, isn't the more potent line of attack against Turner that she won't be able to deliver due to always butting heads? I mean, a mailer to older Democratic voters saying "Nina Turner said your vote for Joe Biden & Kamala Harris is like eating a bowl of sh*t"? Not a strategist, but I feel like that would be the "establishment" argument. It could work or totally flop (are people really concerned about how well you work with leadership?). If the 2020 presidential primary proved anything, it is that the "establishment" is much more of a plus than a negative in Democrat primaries. Joe Biden has a 90% approval rating among democrats---I think that line is perfectly helpful to her chances.

The issue is Nina can easily point to times where she has worked with VASTLY diffrent people like John Kasich. Its an argument that falls flat much like other arguments used against her

Fair point. Harder to redefine someone with a reputation than define someone without one. Guess the race comes down to what reputation most voters know.

And it seems that Nina has that in the bag, Shontel was underestimated don't get me wrong but still, Nina still seems to be walking away with it

Brown leads by 20 with the early vote. That is not including the election day vote, where she is favored to do even better. Barring a stunner, she is going to win by a wide margin.

underestimate the Cuyahoga County Council at your own peril?

Glad I walked away from SAFE Turner.

the Tweet coverage is hedging hard since we don't really know how many in-person votes were cast here. I'd think Delta concerns moved some of the electorate back into early voting for this one.

https://twitter.com/kirk_bado/status/1422746034296528897

The same thing as Trump’s stolen election bs.

It is nice to see a progressive candidate to go down in flames though.

That's a stupid comparison when u actually look into finances in this election, it's pretty damning https://twitter.com/kirk_bado/status/1422236489073713157 https://www.fec.gov/data/independent-expenditures/?data_type=processed&cycle=2022&is_notice=true&most_recent=true&candidate_office_state=OH&candidate_office_district=11%3C/div%3E

LOL

Distracted boyfriend meme where boyfriend is Democrats, girlfriend is things Democrats care about and woman being leered at is a generic moderate.

https://twitter.com/davidljarman/status/1422729081469108225?s=21

That's a stupid comparison when u actually look into finances in this election, it's pretty damning https://twitter.com/kirk_bado/status/1422236489073713157 https://www.fec.gov/data/independent-expenditures/?data_type=processed&cycle=2022&is_notice=true&most_recent=true&candidate_office_state=OH&candidate_office_district=11%3C/div%3E That's a stupid comparison when u actually look into finances in this election, it's pretty damning https://twitter.com/kirk_bado/status/1422236489073713157 https://www.fec.gov/data/independent-expenditures/?data_type=processed&cycle=2022&is_notice=true&most_recent=true&candidate_office_state=OH&candidate_office_district=11%3C/div%3E I don’t see your point other than a proposal to limit campaign spending.

U can lol all u want. I'm not seeing any rebuttals... When you add in candidate spending, Shontel Brown was outspent more than 2:1.Over 90% of Turner's donations were from outside the district and the vast majority are unreported, due to small donor disclosure requirements. Meanwhile, we know exactly how much each outside group spent, as you proved by posting the above Twitter graphic. How is it "dark money" when we know exactly which groups spent and how much they spent? Further, this idea that Nina was swamped by outside money is truly preposterous when SHE OUTSPENT BROWN MORE THAN 2-1, using donations that were almost exclusively out of the district. It will always be something with the far-left and far-right: there is never a legitimate loss in your eyes.

Lol, ur actually gonna make the argument that Nina having more money raised by small donors is a counter to the fact that outside groups spent more money solely on ads attacking Nina than every other outside group combined... Nina's outside spending came from normal people, Shontels came from lobbyist groups

Lol, ur actually gonna make the argument that Nina having more money raised by small donors is a counter to the fact that outside groups spent more money solely on ads attacking Nina than every other outside group combined... Nina's outside spending came from normal people, Shontels came from lobbyist groups When someone is outspent 2-1, I don’t think that people are able to actually notice whether the money came from “normal people” or not. The truth is that this district voted for Biden and Clinton 2-1 over Bernie and Nina Turner is a bad fit for it. Just take the L and move on, instead of trying to act as if it is a conspiracy that pro-Israel groups opposed a virulently anti-Israel candidate.

Who said anything about a conspiracy? Literally all the things I am showing are public knowledge. It is public knowledge that DMFI spent more money on Anti-Nina ads then every other outside group combibed If I didn't kniw any better I'd suggest ur just projecting ur own antisemetism onto me since ur the only petson bringing up conspiracies about jews here...

So your explanation of “evil money” is ..?

Corporate SuperPACs, lobbyists, duh

So your explanation of “evil money” is ..? Evil money is any money that didn't support the candidate I want... Turner and her campaign knew what they were up against. She, her endorsers, allies, and online progressives had the funds to combat the "evil money." She blew her lead and lost a majority of primary voters, but we can't accept loss because that doesn't fit into our worldview that our preferred candidates will always win unless the election is rigged/stolen/whatever. Turner had the funds to compete with Brown's spending AND outside funding, she had name ID, grassroots support, a legislative record, and a lead in early polls. Turner blew it. But that's hard to accept, so instead it's "evil money" and corporatist Dems. LOL at the result, which I wasn't expecting at all, and LOL at progressive twitter excuses when they lose.

Literally ignoring the millions raised by lobbyists in the last stretch lol @ u