This was a disgrace by the Biden administration.

The policy to withdrawal was Trumps, but the execution was disastrous and Biden owns it. Perhaps most shocking as Biden had more international tools and goodwill at his disposal.

In the winter, the Taliban leaves to Pakistan for its retreat. And then comes back in the spring and summer back for fighting. Biden should have withdrew troops in the winter and used the time between spring and winter to train the Afghan troops and use the time for additional air support for the Afghan troops something that the Afghan security forces lacked.

US troops have been in Afghanistan for two decades, and you think that "training the Afghan troops" now would make a difference?

You really believe that the US troops should just leave w/o any air support, intelligence, or any forms defense capabilities given to the Afghan troops?

We had been training them and we spent years giving them the equipment they'd need in order to defend themselves. In many cases they simply chose not to without so much as the illusion of a fight. This is the failure of the Bush Doctrine of spreading American democracy because it's clear that the minute we left, the Taliban would take back the country whether it was in one month, one year, another 20 years, etc.

Afghanistan will have one of the worst humanitarian crisis and hundreds of thousands will die in the next few years. And then the United States, United Kingdom, France, and Germany, will intervene and kick out Taliban.

I'll brace myself for a couple weeks of handwringing, stories about the humanitarian situation, second-guessing the decision from folk with no better ideas, and GOP press releases pretending to care about foreign lives and suddenly wanting to invest in nation building. Someone HMU when people remember they didn't want to permanently occupy a country they couldn't find on a map. Oh, nearly forget to mention the folk who are going to say even though Trump wanted to pull out, he would've had a plan. No one would ever tell us the plan, not even him, but it would've been big, and beautiful, and the Afghanis would've had the best government ever... It's done. Not how I would've liked it to have ended, but it's done. Hopefully someone is focusing on lessons learned, but given SIGAR reports over the last decade, I doubt it.

First of all, Joe Biden owns this mess. And it is not only GOP blaming even his former colleagues are doing so like Former DOD Secretary Gates and Ambassador Crocker. Congrats to Joe on his second country that he destroyed!

Sure this didn’t go how Biden wanted but I our time in Afghanistan if finally over and more American will be happy with that than ever care on how it happened. If the people there really hated the taliban they would have stood up and taught. Apparently they don’t think they are too bad and surrendered.

The boys are back in town.... https://twitter.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1426763243893280769

Not sure why Republicans suddenly care about right-wingers storming a nation's capitol.

If we were a serious nation, we would've tried to set up a sort of Taliban-lite regime, instead of trying to install Western European-style parliamentary democracy in a primitive bandit country.

My basic takeaways from all this: A takeover was bound to happen, if it wasn't the Taliban it woulda been someone else. If it wasn't today it woulda happened later US should still should Pull Out of Afghanistan, literally no other possible scenario can happen given the circumstances We should bring in refugees/help refugees relocate, its the least we could do after fucking their country for 20 years It is not Bidens fault, or Obamas fault, or Trumps Fault or Bushes fault. It is ALL OF THEIR FAULTS. Bush for starting the war with no endgame, the rest for just chugging along with no plan for the end. I even expected the point of the 9/11 withdrawl (Outside of the speeches Biden will make on that day) was that there was gonna be a plan in case something like this happened We lost. Game over. $6.5 Trillion down the drain...

If we were a serious nation, we would've tried to set up a sort of Taliban-lite regime, instead of trying to install Western European-style parliamentary democracy in a primitive bandit country. What is “Taliban-lite”?

Bush, Obama and Trump were all aware we weren't going to create a Western style democracy in Afghanistan and whoever pulled the troops was going to get tagged with "losing" the war. They were all too chickens*it to do so, so they kept kicking the can down the road and spending trillions just to not personally look bad. At least Biden had the courage to do it. Even if he failed to see the speed of the collapse and that IS on him. The 20 years of "military training" was so obviously worthless. As was the continuing military assurances of "just give us a few more months and we'll win."

Tucker Carlson is already railing against the Afghani refugees as invading immigrants.

The 20 years of "military training" was so obviously worthless. As was the continuing military assurances of "just give us a few more months and we'll win." Not to mention all the equipment we provided to the Afghani military is now in the hands of the Taliban.

Not to mention all the equipment we provided to the Afghani military is now in the hands of the Taliban. That is what I find so sad - all the Afghan forces needed to do was to use the tanks, helicopters, and ammunition that we had already supplied them, and they could have at least held off the Taliban.

https://twitter.com/nahaltoosi/status/1427653600885497863

My favorite part out of all of this is the fact that Trump is pissed that Biden, y'know, did the thing that he said he was going to do and never did? Admittedly, he did make process with the Doha Accords and such, but I genuinely don't want to hear from Trump that it was 'humiliating'. That just says to me he had absolutely zero intention of actually ending the forever wars. Ending a war isn't a 'strong' thing. You're leaving because you never succeeded at the goal you set, which in Afganistan's case there was no goal after Bin Laden died; it was just an excuse to boost defense spending. Anyways it isn't humiliating to save American soldiers lives. It has been amusing though to see all the MAGA Trump supporters that I used to agree with on pulling out of Afghanistan suddenly go full Dick Cheney 'stay forever' because Biden did the thing instead of Trump. Politics in this country, on both sides, is forever poisoned by hyper-partisanship and the culture war. You can complain about the way it was done, sure. I didn't particularly like the video I saw of Afghans falling off of US planes mid-flight. But we got out. It was never going to go 'well', the entire military-industrial complex was against pulling out and REFUSED to put any plans in place for it. Blame the Department of Defense and the warmongers, not Biden. He's one man, just like Trump was.