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  Bolivian Leader Evo Morales Steps Down
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Last EditedBojicat  Nov 10, 2019 03:06pm
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AuthorNew York Times
News DateSunday, November 10, 2019 09:00:00 PM UTC0:0
DescriptionA leftist who had served longer than any other current head of state in Latin America, Mr. Morales lost his grip on power amid violent protests set off by a disputed election.
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I:9626Bojicat ( 786.8221 points)
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Mon, November 11, 2019 04:41:52 PM UTC0:00
Let it be known:

I HATE all authoritarians left and right. So should you.

Mankind ALWAYS records the overthrow of tyrannies by the people as one of its few beautiful moments. They embed these moments in historical stone.

Bless the people of Bolivia.

 
D:9642EastTexasDem ( 1194.2172 points)
Mon, November 11, 2019 05:01:28 PM UTC0:00
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I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -193.5252 points)
Mon, November 11, 2019 05:03:16 PM UTC0:00
So authoritarian that he asked other countries to verify the election results. If Morales was authoritarian why would he let Mesa roam free?

 
D:1RP ( 5506.7227 points)
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Mon, November 11, 2019 07:41:04 PM UTC0:00
I'm not horribly familiar with everything going on here, but Morales broke his own self-imposed 2-term limit, which isn't a huge deal, but then tried to get a referendum through to break the constitutional 3-term limit which was voted down, and then got his Supreme Court to declare the constitutional 3-term limit to be unconstitutional (!?) because of supposed US influence on the referendum. This is very authoritarian behavior in my view.

 
I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -193.5252 points)
Mon, November 11, 2019 10:09:32 PM UTC0:00
RP: I'm not horribly familiar with everything going on here, but Morales broke his own self-imposed 2-term limit, which isn't a huge deal, but then tried to get a referendum through to break the constitutional 3-term limit which was voted down, and then got his Supreme Court to declare the constitutional 3-term limit to be unconstitutional (!?) because of supposed US influence on the referendum. This is very authoritarian behavior in my view.
Be that as it may Bolivia still elected him with 47.08% of the vote....

 
I:1038WA Indy ( 1790.9733 points)
Mon, November 11, 2019 11:09:07 PM UTC0:00
That's the result that followed an off 24-hour pause in vote counting and where the OAS said there was clear manipulation? Or are we ignoring that because anyone who questions victory of your preferred choice is supporting a coup?

 
Un:9757BrentinCO ( 6338.6216 points)
Tue, November 12, 2019 03:07:28 AM UTC0:00

 
I:1038WA Indy ( 1790.9733 points)
Tue, November 12, 2019 03:25:53 AM UTC0:00
Don’t Shapiro the Global Left!!

 
I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -193.5252 points)
Tue, November 12, 2019 04:44:43 AM UTC0:00
WA Indy: That's the result that followed an off 24-hour pause in vote counting and where the OAS said there was clear manipulation? Or are we ignoring that because anyone who questions victory of your preferred choice is supporting a coup?

That's one of two vote counts that happen during the results, the results you are quoting from are the preliminary results or quick count that was to be held the day of to show the progression of the election. They got to 83.85% of voters on the quick count which left a 7.87% divide between the candidates.

Then the Bolivian Government stopped the quick count went on the the official count, but Mesa DEMANDED they continue the quick count because they conflated the two counts, as such the Bolivian government did. Then when they counted 95.63% of the ballots Morales got to slightly above a 10% lead above Mesa. The jump is attributed to the fact that Morales's support is largely rural voters who are reported later than people in the more urban areas in Bolivia.



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D:10409Tar Heel Conservative Dem ( 0.0000 points)
Tue, November 12, 2019 09:48:17 PM UTC0:00
I see Morales has accepted asylum from Mexico. Big question is whether whoever gets elected as Bolivian President in a new election, whether that person will repair diplomatic ties with Israel & the United States ?

 
I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -193.5252 points)
Tue, November 12, 2019 11:06:41 PM UTC0:00
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MFL:9399Juan Croniqueur ( 0.2936 points)
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Wed, November 13, 2019 03:16:16 AM UTC0:00
Tar Heel Conservative Dem: I see Morales has accepted asylum from Mexico. Big question is whether whoever gets elected as Bolivian President in a new election, whether that person will repair diplomatic ties with Israel & the United States ?

Normal countries don't really pay much heed to what the Israeli government thinks. That's a particularly U.S. obsession.