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R:9757BrentinCO ( 1710.1019 points)
Mon, June 29, 2020 11:34:34 PM UTC0:00
Another anonymous poll
The war between the North and South that occurred between 1861-1865 was mostly fought over
Slavery 16 (100%)
States Rights 0 (0%)
Something else 0 (0%)
16 Votes Cast
Polls Close July 06, 2020 12:00am

R:9757BrentinCO ( 1710.1019 points)
Mon, June 29, 2020 11:58:58 PM UTC0:00
I grew up in Washington State and learned in history the war as the American Civil War and that it was mostly fought over slavery.

A colleague of mine is from rural Georgia and learned it differently. I was wondering what peoples experiences were.

I've done a bit of traveling for work and visited Atlanta, GA and Raleigh, NC in the last 5 years. The first trips to the American southhi
. I was surprised when I visited both cities at the number of Confederate Monuments that were up. And recall feeling a bit weird about it all - struck me as odd that these monuments existed at all. Of course as a white man visiting, my experience can't compare to a black man living in these cities or as a white native of these regions. However, the experience has helped me now understand more about the heated debate that is happening now.

Not sure many people outside the South have much context for it other than an intellectual context.

Has anyone else not from the South visited the south and had a similar experience?

I can't be sure, but I don't think there are any monuments up in the USA for Thomas Gage or Benedict Arnold. And I don't believe anything in the USA is named from George III.

D:9642EastTexasDem ( 760.2063 points)
Tue, June 30, 2020 12:32:59 AM UTC0:00
I had a middle school teacher who specifically taught us, "The Civil War wasn't about slavery, it was about states' rights" (this was in rural East Texas). For the most part, though, they made it clear that the Confederacy supported slavery and the Union were abolitionists, but I remember being confused about the "states rights" comment.

The college I went to had multiple Confederate statues, but they were always controversial and they took them down by the time I graduated. Tyler (the largest town in deep East Texas) has a high school named after Robert E. Lee, and now there's renewed interest in changing the name. I later learned that the mascot (which is now the Red Raiders) used to be the "Rebels" and that the football team would enter the stadium under the world's largest rebel flag. They changed the mascot name and removed any Confederate imagery in the 1970s after integrating, but the Robert E. Lee name stuck.

R:9757BrentinCO ( 1710.1019 points)
Tue, June 30, 2020 05:01:01 AM UTC0:00
Despite the current poll results here, there was a poll I saw from Pew that asked similar questions and the results were quite different. [Link]

I'm actually quite surprised by the results here, but its encouraging to say the least.