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Name | Angus King |
Address | P.O. Box 633 Brunswick, Maine 04011, United States |
Email | None |
Website | [Link] |
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Facebook | SenatorAngusSKingJr |
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March 31, 1944
(79 years)
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Contributor | RP |
Last Modifed | Charlotte K-A Apr 14, 2022 02:35pm |
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Info | Angus Stanley King, Jr.
b. March 31, 1944
Alexandria VA
EDUCATION
B.A.
Dartmouth College 1966
Hanover GR NH
J.D.
University of Virginia Law School 1969
Charlottesville VA
ELECTORAL HISTORY
State of Maine
Governor 1995-2003
United States Senate
Senator for Maine: 2013-
m. Edie Birney (div. 1982)
m. Mary Herman (1984)
Five children
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Un:9757 | BrentinCO ( 6338.6216 points)
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Wed, December 16, 2020 06:35:40 PM UTC0:00
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Wants free Netflix and Chill for Americans over Christmas.
Wants free Netflix and Chill for Americans over Christmas.
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Angus King might be the most successful politician in US history who is not a member of a political party. I seriously wonder if anyone else has ever had a better elective career who was an independent from the beginning.
Angus King might be the most successful politician in US history who is not a member of a political party. I seriously wonder if anyone else has ever had a better elective career who was an independent from the beginning.
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I:9951 | E Pluribus Unum ( -193.5252 points)
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Wed, June 28, 2023 03:43:54 AM UTC0:00
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There is AHEM one that would probably qualify.
There is AHEM one that would probably qualify.
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There is AHEM one that would probably qualify.
Does Liberty Union Party count as "independent from the beginning"?
E Pluribus Unum: There is AHEM one that would probably qualify.
Does Liberty Union Party count as "independent from the beginning"?
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I:9951 | E Pluribus Unum ( -193.5252 points)
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Wed, June 28, 2023 05:12:00 PM UTC0:00
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Well that depends on many definitions:
Does Elective Career only count the careers after they were elected? Elections in general? Their Careers in Political Activism in General? Do Minor Parties count as "Independent"?
I say this because King had a bit of career in public and political service Prior as a Democrat and only left to run for Governor, would that discount him as "Independent from the beginning"
Not to take away from Angus' accomplishments, they're nothing to sneeze at
Well that depends on many definitions:
Does Elective Career only count the careers after they were elected? Elections in general? Their Careers in Political Activism in General? Do Minor Parties count as "Independent"?
I say this because King had a bit of career in public and political service Prior as a Democrat and only left to run for Governor, would that discount him as "Independent from the beginning"
Not to take away from Angus' accomplishments, they're nothing to sneeze at
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D:1 | RP ( 5506.7227 points)
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Wed, June 28, 2023 07:52:39 PM UTC0:00
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Did he actually get elected to anything before Governor? I can't find anything.
Did he actually get elected to anything before Governor? I can't find anything.
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I:9951 | E Pluribus Unum ( -193.5252 points)
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Wed, June 28, 2023 10:07:24 PM UTC0:00
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Not elected, but he was still serving in a public position aiding legislative Democrats as a Dem. And he remained a Dem until right before his Gubernatorial run.
Not elected, but he was still serving in a public position aiding legislative Democrats as a Dem. And he remained a Dem until right before his Gubernatorial run.
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I:9951 | E Pluribus Unum ( -193.5252 points)
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Sat, July 1, 2023 01:03:05 AM UTC0:00
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I mean that would mean something if Bernie was a Democrat.....but he isn't.
Also ignoring that Prior to Bernie's election Vermont was solid RED and it was due to him that Vermont begun shifting hard Left to the point where practically all their prominent elected Dems are basically Bernie Copies....
I mean I'd think being a primary factor in that would classify as "Impressive", but I guess a Middle of the Road Guy winning in a state known for electing Middle of the Road Guys is MORE IMPRESSIVE....
I mean that would mean something if Bernie was a Democrat.....but he isn't.
Also ignoring that Prior to Bernie's election Vermont was solid RED and it was due to him that Vermont begun shifting hard Left to the point where practically all their prominent elected Dems are basically Bernie Copies....
I mean I'd think being a primary factor in that would classify as "Impressive", but I guess a Middle of the Road Guy winning in a state known for electing Middle of the Road Guys is MORE IMPRESSIVE....
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I:1038 | WA Indy ( 1790.9733 points)
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Sat, July 1, 2023 06:15:05 PM UTC0:00
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Vermont wasn’t solid red until Bernie. That ignores the Ds elected up and down the ballot in the 70s and 80s in that state - Leahy, Dean, Salmon, Kunin. Hell, even the state senate and state house started flipping in 1984 when Bernie was a mayor, not a statewide officeholder.
And all of this is subjective. One guy says something nice about one independent in a different state, ofc it becomes a long argument about how Bernie is better. Jeez, give it a rest or make a YouTube video about it.
Vermont wasn’t solid red until Bernie. That ignores the Ds elected up and down the ballot in the 70s and 80s in that state - Leahy, Dean, Salmon, Kunin. Hell, even the state senate and state house started flipping in 1984 when Bernie was a mayor, not a statewide officeholder.
And all of this is subjective. One guy says something nice about one independent in a different state, ofc it becomes a long argument about how Bernie is better. Jeez, give it a rest or make a YouTube video about it.
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Bernie Sanders runs for President in the Democratic primaries. His status as an independent is totally pro forma, and only exists at all due to a compliant press. If some right-winger who was registered to vote as decline-to-state were to run in the GOP presidential primaries, he would be universally characterized as "a Republican" through the rest of his life, and unto his NYT obit.
Bernie Sanders runs for President in the Democratic primaries. His status as an independent is totally pro forma, and only exists at all due to a compliant press. If some right-winger who was registered to vote as decline-to-state were to run in the GOP presidential primaries, he would be universally characterized as "a Republican" through the rest of his life, and unto his NYT obit.
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D:10973 | Patrick ( 0.0000 points)
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Sun, July 2, 2023 10:43:43 PM UTC0:00
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I don't think anyone other than pedant politicos really care about the distinction of Independent vs. Democrat in either case. Also we literally have a contemporary example of a Republican who did that in Justin Amash and the "compliant press" could not fall over themselves harder to call him an independent, so great contribution as always.
I don't think anyone other than pedant politicos really care about the distinction of Independent vs. Democrat in either case. Also we literally have a contemporary example of a Republican who did that in Justin Amash and the "compliant press" could not fall over themselves harder to call him an independent, so great contribution as always.
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If you're one of the principal candidates for the Democratic nomination for President, then you're a de facto Democrat.
If you're one of the principal candidates for the Democratic nomination for President, then you're a de facto Democrat.
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Un:9757 | BrentinCO ( 6338.6216 points)
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Mon, July 3, 2023 01:15:05 AM UTC0:00
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If you're one of the principal candidates for the Democratic nomination for President, then you're a de facto Democrat.
I agree with this. In fact, if Bernie hadn't run for Democratic Presidential nomination but only organized with Democrats - I might be more open to the argument that he's been the most successful independent politician. Lets also consider that Bernie is playing a major roll in endorsing Democratic candidates in all level of races throughout America. It would be very different if he was primarily focused on third party challenges to the major two parties.
Hikikomori Blitzkrieg!: If you're one of the principal candidates for the Democratic nomination for President, then you're a de facto Democrat.
I agree with this. In fact, if Bernie hadn't run for Democratic Presidential nomination but only organized with Democrats - I might be more open to the argument that he's been the most successful independent politician. Lets also consider that Bernie is playing a major roll in endorsing Democratic candidates in all level of races throughout America. It would be very different if he was primarily focused on third party challenges to the major two parties.
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