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Parents > United States > North Carolina > Referenda > 2012 Statewide Referendum: Definition of Marriage
OfficeReferendum
Type Referendum
Filing Deadline September 13, 2011 - 12:00pm
Polls Open May 08, 2012 - 05:30am
Polls Close May 08, 2012 - 06:30pm
Term Start May 09, 2012 - 12:00pm
Term End December 31, 9999 - 11:55pm
Turnout 34.19% Registered 26.73% Total Population
ContributorHomegrown Democrat
Last ModifiedRBH May 09, 2012 04:35am
Data Sources[Link]
Description Article 14 of the North Carolina Constitution is amended by adding the following new section:

Sec.6. Marriage

Marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State. This section does not prohibit a private party from entering into contracts with another private party; nor does this section prohibit courts from adjudicating the rights of private parties pursuant to such contracts.
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KEY RACE? 8.0000000000 Average
LEANING PREDICTIONS    Detail
Leaning Graph
09/13/2011 05/08/2012
CandidateSlightLeanStrongSafe
Yes 5 1 2 9
No 2 ------
Leaning Call: Yes (96.08%)
Weighted Call: Yes (92.20%)
MATCHUP POLL GRAPH
Poll Graph
09/01/2011 05/06/2012

CANDIDATES
Photo  
Name Yes No  
PartyYES NO  
Website  
Uncertified Votes1,318,944 (61.30%) 832,867 (38.71%)  
Margin0 (0.00%) -486,077 (-22.59%)  
Predict Avg.58.38% 41.62%  
Cash On Hand $-- $--  
MATCHUP POLLS (11 from 4 pollsters)
Adj Poll Avg54.80%-- 38.36%--  
Public Policy Polling (D) 
05/05/12-05/06/12
55.00% -- 39.00% 2.0
Survey USA 
04/26/12-04/30/12
57.00% 1.0 37.00% 1.0
Public Policy Polling (D) 
04/27/12-04/29/12
55.00% 1.0 41.00% 1.0
Public Policy Polling (D) 
04/20/12-04/22/12
54.00% -- 40.00% --
Survey USA 
03/16/12-03/20/12
58.00% -- 36.00% --
Public Policy Polling (D) 
01/05/12-01/08/12
56.00% 3.0 34.00% 1.0
ENDORSEMENTS
Endorsements
D Billy Graham [L]
PRI Paul
R Newt Gingrich [L]
AENM Angry Russian
MFL Juan Croniqueur
LBT Smart
R Spen
P karin1492
 

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NEWS
Date Category Headline Article Contributor
May 01, 2012 02:00pm Audio Pastor Behind NC Amendment 1 on Raising Children  Article RP 
Apr 24, 2012 12:40pm Endorsement Episcopal Bishops In NC Sign Joint Statement Against Amendment One  Article Homegrown Democrat 
Dec 06, 2011 05:00pm Endorsement Raleigh City Council Passes Resolution Opposing Anti-LGBT Amendment, 6-2   Article Homegrown Democrat 
Oct 07, 2011 03:00pm Statement Perdue opposes anti-gay amendment because it's bad for business   Article Homegrown Democrat 
Oct 03, 2011 05:25am News GOPer Renee Ellmers Says North Carolina Gay Marriage Ban Too Aggressive  Article ScottĀ³ 
Sep 24, 2011 12:00am News Gay Marriage Ban On Ballot Omits Sentence From Bill  Article karin1492 

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LBT:6309Silver Dime ( 94.8693 points)
Wed, May 9, 2012 06:36:34 AM UTC0:00
Should Polygamy be legal?
Should polygamy be legal?
No 6 (37.5%)
Yes 5 (31.25%)
It should be a state issue 5 (31.25%)
16 Votes Cast
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Polls Close May 15, 2012 12:00am

 
Un:1317Patrick ( 3338.9863 points)
Wed, May 9, 2012 06:37:46 AM UTC0:00
Imperator: If it's a good idea based on sound principle and generally agreeable to people across the political spectrum, why so little faith that it can catch on in the near future?

Do you live in this country?

 
LBT:8449Jed Ziggler ( 433.7087 points)
x2
Wed, May 9, 2012 06:49:24 AM UTC0:00
The government has no business defining marriage. In a free country, people have the right to do things others don't like. Consenting adults should be allowed to enter into any contract, marital or otherwise, and government's duty is to enforce it.

 
Un:1317Patrick ( 3338.9863 points)
Wed, May 9, 2012 09:42:40 AM UTC0:00
Gary Sims, the deputy director of Wake County board of elections in Raleigh, told the Guardian that there were "some really angry people" on both sides of the highly-charged debate.

Observers from the Republican party have sought to "challenge and confront" precinct officials from the board and were "clogging up the phone lines" back at Wake County headquarters. "This is the craziest election I've seen in 13 years" said Sims, at his office next to the courthouse.

"We've seen political party observers who are not precinct officials. They can ask to be observers. They want to challenge and confront and it's a problem for our precinct officials."

He said the reason for the confrontations varied, from calling up the board of elections to complain that there wasn't a chair for them to sit on to pushing officials to get people to show ID at the polls.

"They have been clogging up the phone lines and getting mad at us," said Sims. "People have to state their names and addresses and we check them. But they are challenging officials to make them show ID. They have an agenda, the ones that we've been getting trouble from."

When asked whether the trouble was coming from the groups for or against Amendment 1, Sims said: "Put it this way: we had zero Democratic party observers." He added: "I've probably said more than I should." [Link]

 
D:1989RBH ( 1271.2517 points)
Wed, May 9, 2012 09:18:31 PM UTC0:00
New Hanover and Dare came close to voting no while still being McCain counties

 
D:1658Homegrown Democrat ( 758.3651 points)
Thu, May 10, 2012 04:13:12 AM UTC0:00
People seem to neglect WHY the government is involved in marriage anyway when coming to this issue.

The primary reason the government even got involved in the matter is because of property disputes when someone passes away. Having the government recognize marriage makes it simple if there are open questions on who should get what.

Plural marriage isn't a valid interest for the government in property disputes. Plural marriage complicates them.

My view is that the government should provide an easy road for a first marriage. If someone wants multiple marriages, they are obligated to define their own legal obligations. They should be recognized.

If a man dies with a wife and kids, the wife gets everything. What if he dies with 5 wives and they don't have any intention of staying together after his death? That gets into complex legal crap that will tie up the courts.

If someone wants plural marriage, fine. Let them work out their own property situations with lawyers and contracts. The government cannot possibly assume who gets what in such a situation.

And no, this is not the same as asking gay men or lesbians to just set up a contract. A single marriage is simple to implement under current laws.

 
R:1490Imperator ( 2248.3596 points)
Thu, May 10, 2012 04:35:14 AM UTC0:00
Homegrown Democrat: The primary reason the government even got involved in the matter is because of property disputes when someone passes away. Having the government recognize marriage makes it simple if there are open questions on who should get what.

Really? I recall reading somewhere that the government first involved itself in marriage during Reconstruction in order to prevent miscegenation. I find neither reason sufficient to assume an unenumerated power. Do you have a source?

 
D:411Picimpalious ( 1229.6810 points)
Thu, May 10, 2012 06:56:22 AM UTC0:00
There isn't a country in the world where the government doesn't keep track of marriages. To suggest it's an idea that was invented by segregationists is ridiculous.

 
D:1658Homegrown Democrat ( 758.3651 points)
Thu, May 10, 2012 03:21:33 PM UTC0:00
Imperator: Really? I recall reading somewhere that the government first involved itself in marriage during Reconstruction in order to prevent miscegenation. I find neither reason sufficient to assume an unenumerated power. Do you have a source?

Marriage laws were in effect during the Roman empire. Jewish people had laws about marriage... the Bible explains how things should be passed down.

England had marriage laws, including common marriage, long before America was established, and we accepted them. Many states still allow for common-law marriage.

If you honestly think there was no such thing as civil marriage laws until Reconstruction, you need to learn some history.

 
R:1490Imperator ( 2248.3596 points)
Thu, May 10, 2012 07:39:54 PM UTC0:00
Homegrown Democrat: If you honestly think there was no such thing as civil marriage laws until Reconstruction, you need to learn some history.

Thanks to your endorsement of scholarship, which I'm sure was in no way intended to imply that I'm somehow insufficiently educated compared to someone such as yourself, it appears that what I had previously read was in reference to marriage licensure. To whit:

[Link]

State courts in the United States have routinely held that public cohabitation was sufficient evidence of a valid marriage.[1] Marriage license application records from government authorities are widely available starting from the mid-19th century. Some are available dating from the 17th century in colonial America.[2] But marriage licenses were not required until after the civil war.[1] Marriage licenses from their inception have sought to establish certain prohibitions on the institution of marriage. These prohibitions have changed throughout history. In the 1920s, they were used by 38 states to prohibit whites from marrying blacks, mulattos, Japanese, Chinese, Indians, Mongolians, Malays or Filipinos without a state approved license.[1] At least 32 nations have established significant prohibitions on same-sex marriage.[3]

 
SAP:262Gaear Grimsrud ( 6920.2134 points)
Thu, May 10, 2012 07:42:29 PM UTC0:00
One of the counties that voted against the ban was Watauga, which is home to Appalachian State University, the alma mater of Alan Teitleman. Ha ha.

 
LBT:6309Silver Dime ( 94.8693 points)
Fri, May 11, 2012 05:19:02 AM UTC0:00
Silver Dime: Should Polygamy be legal?

To be honest, I'm a little surprised by some of the votes from some Democratic members of this site.

 
D:1658Homegrown Democrat ( 758.3651 points)
Fri, May 11, 2012 07:26:10 PM UTC0:00

 
D:917NYDem Junior ( 1973.3054 points)
x2
Fri, May 11, 2012 09:46:05 PM UTC0:00
So no surprise that Scott Walker opposes gay marriage:-D

 
Veg:334Nothing wrong, just gone ( 591.1573 points)
Fri, May 11, 2012 09:57:36 PM UTC0:00
This kind of goes along with the previous map:


 
D:478Bob ( 2253.6577 points)
Fri, May 11, 2012 10:53:18 PM UTC0:00
They took their liberties with the second map, since Guilford and New Hanover counties narrowly went for Yes.

 
D:479Brandon ( 1558.3782 points)
Fri, May 11, 2012 11:27:37 PM UTC0:00
Silver Dime: <Q 6309>Should Polygamy be legal?
To be honest, I'm a little surprised by some of the votes from some Democratic members of this site.
I'm surprised that you're surprised.

 
R:7206Hikikomori Blitzkrieg! ( 290.2565 points)
Sun, May 13, 2012 06:22:05 AM UTC0:00
Polygamy should be a state issue. And all fifty states should continue to deny its formal recognition.

 
R:7206Hikikomori Blitzkrieg! ( 290.2565 points)
Sun, May 13, 2012 06:23:45 AM UTC0:00


This is just dumb. Fresno is not a beacon of light & learning merely because Fresno State University is located within its city limits.

 
SAP:262Gaear Grimsrud ( 6920.2134 points)
Sun, May 13, 2012 06:33:56 AM UTC0:00
Inaccurate, as New Hanover and Guildford counties ultimately voted for the ban. However, the results there were on a knife's edge. I don't think it's a coincidence that major metropolitan areas and college-dominated counties were the ones that voted against.

Also, Forsyth County (Winston-Salem), home of Wake Forest, was relatively close too (52% for).

 
D:6506TEXAN FOR HILLARY ( 0.0000 points)
Sun, May 13, 2012 08:20:15 AM UTC0:00
Dare county ended up voting no. Is there a college out there or is that rich liberals with beach homes?

 
SAP:262Gaear Grimsrud ( 6920.2134 points)
Mon, May 14, 2012 12:21:19 AM UTC0:00
No, it didn't.

 
D:6506TEXAN FOR HILLARY ( 0.0000 points)
Mon, May 14, 2012 01:15:03 AM UTC0:00
[Link]

 
SAP:262Gaear Grimsrud ( 6920.2134 points)
Mon, May 14, 2012 10:58:17 PM UTC0:00
No, this is more recent:

[Link]

and showed that the "For" side won.

 
D:1989RBH ( 1271.2517 points)
Mon, May 14, 2012 11:12:55 PM UTC0:00
NCSBOE ( [Link] ) has No winning Dare, the difference between AP and NCSBOE is the AP has 400 more yes votes and 60 more no votes.

Dare County, NC and Monroe County, FL are in a club of having lots of mostly uninhabited landmass and most of their population living on tiny islands off the cost