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RACE DETAILS
Parents > OurCampaigns (imaginary) > Silly Races > Site Elections > OC President
OfficeOur Campaigns President
Type General Election
Filing Deadline 00, 0000 - 12:00pm
Polls Open April 08, 2005 - 06:00am
Polls Close April 12, 2005 - 11:00pm
Term Start April 15, 2005 - 12:00pm
Term End August 01, 2005 - 08:20am
Turnout 5.42% Registered
ContributorRalphie
Last ModifiedNothing wrong, just gone August 01, 2005 08:21am
Data Sources[Link]
Description Voting booth: [Link]
LAST GENERAL ELECTION
PartyDemocratic Won12/12/2004
Name DFWDem Votes31 (40.26%)
Term12/15/2004 - 04/15/2005 Margin6 (+7.79%)
NEXT GENERAL ELECTION
  PartyAbolition Won08/01/2005
Name Servo Votes1 (100.00%)
Term08/01/2005 - 08/02/2005 Margin1 (+100.00%)
PRIMARY/OTHER SCHEDULE
Feb 02, 2005 OC President - PRB Caucus Endorsement Thomas Walker
Feb 14, 2005 OC President ABOL Primary Thomas Walker
Mar 15, 2005 OC President- Moderate Caucus Endorsement Steve "Classical Liberal" _
Mar 31, 2005 OC President Progressive Caucus (R) Endorsement Pragmatic Conservative
Apr 04, 2005 OC President - Liberty Caucus Endorsement Steve "Classical Liberal" _
Apr 05, 2005 OC President R Primary Pragmatic Conservative
Apr 08, 2005 OC President D Primary Bob Heaney
MAP
KEY RACE? 5.2500000000 Average
LEANING PREDICTIONS    Detail
Leaning Graph
03/02/2005 04/12/2005
CandidateSlightLeanStrongSafe
Thomas Walker 4 4 ----
Leaning Call: Thomas Walker (100.00%)
Weighted Call: Thomas Walker (100.00%)
MATCHUP POLL GRAPH
Poll Graph
02/11/2005 04/08/2005

CANDIDATES
Photo  
Name Thomas Walker Pragmatic Conservative Bob Heaney  
PartyAbolition Republican Democratic  
Website [Website]  
Uncertified Votes (0.00% in)41 (53.95%) 26 (34.21%) 9 (11.84%)  
Margin0 (0.00%) -15 (-19.74%) -32 (-42.11%)  
Predict Avg.41.75% 31.25% 24.25%  
Cash On Hand $-- $-- $--  
MATCHUP POLLS (4 from 1 pollsters)
Adj Poll Avg45.65%-- 23.93%-- 27.96%--  
Our Campaigns 
04/06/05-04/08/05
45.65% 13.0 28.26% -- 21.73% --
Our Campaigns 
03/17/05-03/20/05
58.62% 37.6 0.00% -- 0.00% --
Our Campaigns 
03/03/05-03/07/05
21.05% 14.7 0.00% -- 0.00% --
Our Campaigns 
02/11/05-02/18/05
35.71% -- 0.00% -- 0.00% --
ENDORSEMENTS
Endorsements
WmP Chronicler
D vox_populi
R SC-Conservative
R YoungConservative
I notthepope
D DFWDem
D Steve
 

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D:1489vox_populi ( 0.0000 points)
Thu, April 7, 2005 08:02:50 PM UTC0:00
I have always appreciated Thomas and his regular Our Campaigns email updates. It's a pleasure to endorse him for President. Good luck Thomas.

 
D:1656The Sunset Provision ( 1384.6633 points)
Thu, April 7, 2005 08:09:45 PM UTC0:00
Thanx Travis. I think you will make an equally impressive and dedicated President. You've proven that you can work hard to improve and expand the site. It's a hard choice. He asked. And where I live politicians still ask people for their vote, it's something I grew up with. Thanks for everything you do, I know you are greatly appreciated by myself and many others.

 
D:1RP ( 3311.3784 points)
Thu, April 7, 2005 08:50:58 PM UTC0:00
"Hell, the polls open here before they even close on the Dem primary." - Imperator

No, they don't. They close on the Dem Primary poll at 12am and open here 6 hours later at 6am.

 
R:787Barack O-blame-a ( 80.6213 points)
Thu, April 7, 2005 08:55:08 PM UTC0:00
If this SOS is doing it, it'll be online a bit later, say 7:45 am.

 
R:1490Imperator ( 2248.3596 points)
Thu, April 7, 2005 11:54:37 PM UTC0:00
Ah, my mistake. Still, a six-hour campaign in the middle of the night? I mean I know it's peak working hours for us college students, but...

 
D:15COSDem ( 3540.3062 points)
Thu, April 7, 2005 11:57:23 PM UTC0:00
The Democratic primary was *supposed* to end on the 5th, but there was an error when the poll was entered, and it's too difficult to alter it.

 
R:71Wabash ( 1022.6921 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 12:16:36 AM UTC0:00
Randy, I was wondering how you determine which votes are considered valid and which votes are considered invalid. Could you please explain how you decide who is eligible and in good enough standing to vote?

 
D:1RP ( 3311.3784 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 02:03:37 AM UTC0:00
It depends on how active they are as members and how long they've been here. If someone has been here less than about a week, I chuck their vote. If someone has been here a long time, but never posts or enters data, I chuck their vote. Members who were really active before but haven't been recently, I keep their vote.

 
MFL:882The Oncoming Storm ( 344.8853 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 04:41:43 AM UTC0:00
Thanks Randy

 
R:71Wabash ( 1022.6921 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 05:00:07 PM UTC0:00
Randy, thanks for the information. I was hoping, however, for something a little more formal (so that everyone knows what the exact rules are before hand so there are no problems)

The first people you said you would remove are those not registered 7 days before the election. Is this the start of the primary election date or the general election date?

The second one seemed very vague. You wrote: “If someone has been here a long time, but never posts or enters data, I chuck their vote. Members who were really active before but haven't been recently, I keep their vote.” Are there a number of posts you are looking for? Do they have to enter so many pieces of election data? If you could clarify how you determine “active” members from “non-active” members it would be greatly appreciated.

 
R:71Wabash ( 1022.6921 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 05:13:18 PM UTC0:00
OFFICAL BALLOT:
OFFICAL BALLOT: Who should be the OC President for the next 4 months??
Thomas Walker (Abolition) 41 (53.94%)
Ryan Travis (Republican) 26 (34.21%)
Bob Heaney (Democrat) 9 (11.84%)
Write-In 0 (0%)
76 Votes Cast
Polls Close April 12, 2005 11:00pm

 
D:215User 215 ( 720.3858 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 05:13:38 PM UTC0:00
I think Randy is being deliberately vague as not to give people the knowledge how to register duels for voting purposes and get them around Randy's spidey senses.

 
D:215User 215 ( 720.3858 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 05:14:30 PM UTC0:00
VOTED!

GO BOBBY!

 
D:1RP ( 3311.3784 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 05:19:48 PM UTC0:00
"I think Randy is being deliberately vague as not to give people the knowledge how to register duels for voting purposes and get them around Randy's spidey senses." - User 215

Bingo. Anything else allows people to game the system. Plus, it would take forever for me to verify specific log in times and how many messages posted. And just posting messages doesn't count if they're all troll messages.

(BTW, it's duals, not duels. Unless you mean fighting. :) )

 
R:71Wabash ( 1022.6921 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 05:21:51 PM UTC0:00
That may or may not be the case, but it is unfair to the candidates. They have to get as many users to vote for them as possible. They need to know what rules the election is operating under.

I don’t think Randy would change votes in favor of any particular candidate, however as the Florida Presidential and Washington Governor elections have proven –rules need to be very clear before an election starts. This is so candidates cannot complain that the rules were changed after the election to favor their opponent. Also, candidates have to operate under the rules that Randy makes. It is only fair they know exactly what these rules are.

 
Veg:334Nothing wrong, just gone ( 591.1573 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 05:33:01 PM UTC0:00
Yea!!! I've at least now tied my vote totals for the first time I ran!!! :)

 
D:215User 215 ( 720.3858 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 05:40:57 PM UTC0:00
dual...

*smacks head*

And since you are here Thomas, I wish you good luck, I may not be supporting you obviously, but I still wish you all the best.

 
Un:352Ralphie (12176.8838 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 06:10:16 PM UTC0:00
At least having some specific guidelines in place could remove any questions if the results are razor-thin, like in the Val-Tester outcome. It appears that in another three-way race, we may encounter a similar situation.

 
D:215User 215 ( 720.3858 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 06:13:35 PM UTC0:00
I think what Randy gave where pretty specific.

 
R:525PragCon 3.0 ( 199.7647 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 06:53:00 PM UTC0:00
Would it be possible to list the users whose votes are invalidated, if any?

 
R:71Wabash ( 1022.6921 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 08:21:57 PM UTC0:00
"I think what Randy gave where pretty specific." -Robert

Actually, what Randy said was quite arbitrary. He did not define what an active user is, what a troll is, etc. Thus those campaigning do not know which people he considerers a registered voter.

As Scott points out, part of this also protects Randy’s integrity. If the election is close, no one can question the votes that were disqualified if Randy tells us why he disqualifies votes ahead of time. Because I know Randy would not disqualify a vote if there was not a good reason, I personally don’t care (I am sure Scott feels the same way). However, so none of our conspiracy theorist can complain (and we have a lot of them), if he just posted specifically how he decides these matters it would be better for everyone.

 
Un:352Ralphie (12176.8838 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 08:31:34 PM UTC0:00
Yes, exactly. On a political site, you know there are going to be people throwing around conspiracy theories, even if unfounded.

 
Veg:334Nothing wrong, just gone ( 591.1573 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 09:04:03 PM UTC0:00
Stupid question (or perhaps a stupid user!!!), is there a specific url address which will take a user to this page so the ballot will be seen?

This past week, every time I come back to the site, everything is refreshed from the last time I was here. Maybe it is just me, but a link would be helpful, perhaps even in the info at the top of this page, so if a lot of posts are made, it won't take forever to find the poll.

Thanks.

 
D:1RP ( 3311.3784 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 09:13:16 PM UTC0:00
Regardless, I still don't have the time to find all the specifics for each voter immediately after the election, and some decisions are just going to have to be subjective, like trolling. Neal Patel is an example there. He's been here a long time (under many accounts) and he posts a LOT. I think he's a troll. Others might not agree.

I have two choices for solutions to propose then:

1) I post a list of the people I intend to reject and why without noting what their vote was. If there are any objections to any, we can vote on their eligability.

2) Pre-election, the Secretary of State (or whomever the President designates) compiles a list of elligible voters for the upcoming election and gives it to me. I just chuck everyone that isn't on the list.

 
D:1RP ( 3311.3784 points)
Fri, April 8, 2005 09:16:33 PM UTC0:00
"is there a specific url address which will take a user to this page so the ballot will be seen?" - Nothing wrong, just gone

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